the discourse has changed

The single greatest thing Mr Trump and his supporters have done for this country has been to lower the standards of polite discourse and discussion.

The immediate reaction, it seems, of any criticism or disagreement, no matter how gently given, is to immediately denigrate the commenter, then provide reasons why they are so “stupid” “juvenile” “ill-informed”, or the subject is “clear to anyone with half a brain” or whatever unkind remark they can make.  It is designed to put the person in “his or her place”…usually beneath the one reacting.

The discourse has changed from the subject matter to the person making the remark.

Somehow, we need to find common ground with those people with whom we disagree.

I find myself not commenting on posts or articles; frankly because I do not wish to read the vitriol that will inevitably ensue.

I used to find discussion a wonderful means of learning about people with different experiences than I. But over the past year I have found myself engaging rarely with new people.  And when I do engage, fully 1/2 of the time their response is not only negative but inflammatory.

I am so tired of it.

This blog has been such a blessing to me, as I have gained friends, gained in education, gained in self esteem, gained in my writing. Yet, more and more, the interactions with others here are becoming argumentative, degrading and dehumanizing.

Maybe that is how it is all justified.  If I can make someone LESS human, I can say whatever I want.

I reject that thought fully! I just wish everyone rejected that thought.

9 thoughts on “the discourse has changed

  1. I can find nothing great about this administration. At some point, it’s time to quit looking. I’m there. 😃

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  2. You pretty much nailed it with the If I can make someone LESS human, I can say whatever I want.
    It has become the new standard. And why should we be surprised, if it works so well? If the entire debate has been simplifies to a “Us vs Them” complete with the open suggestion that Them are somehow less than Us?

    The first time I saw Trump supporters wearing “Fuck your Feelings” t-shirts, I had a bad feeling about the whole thing – pun intended (this was still Primaries time). The first time a guy called me ‘snowflake’ I gave myself a major hiccup because I couldn’t stop laughing. The consecutive times it made me thoughtful.

    If my grandmother were still alive (a fine lady, though we weren’t close. Elegant, dignified East Coast Protestant and staunch Republican all her life) I just know she’d be appalled. Manners were important to her. You could tell how much she disliked someone by how unfailingly polite she was to them. Icily, cuttingly polite meant you were at the very top of her shit list. “Rude, uncouth person” was the worst insult she could level at someone.
    The contrast is jarring, to say the least…

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    1. I think we shared grand mothers. Mine was the same, as was my mother. Now I find myself doing the same and I hate it!

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      1. Oh, I’d take my grandmother in full “this person is something I just scraped off the bottom of my shoe” Duchess-mode over a barely articulate, tantrum-throwing, crude and vindictive president any day 😛

        But you’re right, it’s not an ideal way to interact, either.
        Still our grandams were on to something by insisting on at least some basic common courtesies, I think. Even as a teen, that made sense to me. And her refusal to waste her time with people who didn’t even know “please”. “thank you”, “good evening” or “oh, pardon me” is starting to make a whole lot of sense, too.

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  3. Well said, Suze. Not so much in our blogging world, but on the other social media for every positive thing posted and every civil comment made there are 5 inflammatory and crude remarks. I also am committing to not engaging. It is easy to strike back and lower myself into the cesspool which Trump has created, but, I don’t want to be there anymore. I’m not wasting brain space on the idiocy that surrounds us.

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    1. I usually just end the entire thing with a “thank you for such a kind comment’.

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  4. It is for the reasons you cited that I don’t use Twitter and I limit my Facebook contacts to close friends and family. Life is too short to get in flame wars with idiots.

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    1. the jarring thing to me is the last verbal snit was here on WordPress. That shocked me.

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      1. I don’t bother getting into arguments with people who make snide comments on any of my posts. Fortunately, it’s a rarity.

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